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inkisaar
2003-10-07 15:17:44 UTC
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Bihar tantriks offer youth's head to deity for magical powers
Indo-Asian News Service
Patna, October 7

Tantriks beheaded a youth and offered his head to a local deity to
gain supernatural powers at a village in Bihar, reports said on
Tuesday.

The tantriks cut off the head of 25-year-old Binay Kumar of Barbigha
village in Sheikhpura district on Monday night and offered it to
Dakbaba, the local deity.

The incident comes close on the heels of Union Minister of State for
Human Resources Sanjay Paswan encouraging witchcraft practitioners by
calling them traditional healers in Bihar.

The youth, who ran a sweets shop in the village, was abducted
recently. His headless body was later found in a field, and his head
discovered later in a temple.

The incident has created panic and fear among villagers. But some
believe the head being found in the temple was a smokescreen and the
youth had actually been murdered.

His head was offered to the village god to mislead people about the
motive behind the murder, some villagers said.
Subir
2003-10-08 00:58:26 UTC
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Bihar tantriks offer youth's head to deity for magical powers
Indo-Asian News Service
Patna, October 7
Doesna quite compare to World Trade Center bombings by shameless and
holy muslims, eh, burkha ?
Syed
2003-10-08 15:33:47 UTC
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Bihar tantriks offer youth's head to deity for magical powers
Indo-Asian News Service
Patna, October 7
Doesna quite compare to World Trade Center bombings by shameless and
holy muslims, eh, burkha ?
Subdy Dubuy Do, on this I agree with you . But these were fanatic
Mullahs not civilized Indians like you, then why this barbaric act by
Hindus on Hindus ????
koolfire_or
2003-10-08 22:24:27 UTC
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Bihar tantriks offer youth's head to deity for magical powers
Indo-Asian News Service
Patna, October 7
Doesna quite compare to World Trade Center bombings by shameless and
holy muslims, eh, burkha ?
Subdy Dubuy Do, on this I agree with you . But these were fanatic
Mullahs not civilized Indians like you, then why this barbaric act by
Hindus on Hindus ????
twisting it cunningly,will hardly take you anywhere...muslims all over
the world have the same common agenda of terrorism..all hindus dont go
beheading...a tantric in bhiar is not civlised and educated
enough,like the person who commanded the plane,or their backers
worldwide.
Syed
2003-10-08 23:49:32 UTC
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Bihar tantriks offer youth's head to deity for magical powers
Indo-Asian News Service
Patna, October 7
Doesna quite compare to World Trade Center bombings by shameless and
holy muslims, eh, burkha ?
Subdy Dubuy Do, on this I agree with you . But these were fanatic
Mullahs not civilized Indians like you, then why this barbaric act by
Hindus on Hindus ????
twisting it cunningly,will hardly take you anywhere...muslims all over
the world have the same common agenda of terrorism..all hindus dont go
beheading...a tantric in bhiar is not civlised and educated
enough,like the person who commanded the plane,or their backers
worldwide.
Mr.Koolfire, ther are billions of Muslim worldwide and not all of them
are doing this kinf of things, only a tiny percentage. And if you
divide these fantiacs by total number of Muslim worldwide and then do
the same for Hindu fanatics. Hindu fanatic %age will be way to high.

Do teh math
koolfire_or
2003-10-09 19:57:22 UTC
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Bihar tantriks offer youth's head to deity for magical powers
Indo-Asian News Service
Patna, October 7
Doesna quite compare to World Trade Center bombings by shameless and
holy muslims, eh, burkha ?
Subdy Dubuy Do, on this I agree with you . But these were fanatic
Mullahs not civilized Indians like you, then why this barbaric act by
Hindus on Hindus ????
twisting it cunningly,will hardly take you anywhere...muslims all over
the world have the same common agenda of terrorism..all hindus dont go
beheading...a tantric in bhiar is not civlised and educated
enough,like the person who commanded the plane,or their backers
worldwide.
Mr.Koolfire, ther are billions of Muslim worldwide and not all of them
are doing this kinf of things, only a tiny percentage. And if you
divide these fantiacs by total number of Muslim worldwide and then do
the same for Hindu fanatics. Hindu fanatic %age will be way to high.
Do teh math
and how did ya do the math,to arrive at such a brilliant
conclusion,%age wise...care to ennumer the numbers more factually,with
their backers...say country wise to make it easier.
Ramanan
2003-10-11 22:45:03 UTC
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Bihar tantriks offer youth's head to deity for magical powers
Indo-Asian News Service
Patna, October 7
Doesna quite compare to World Trade Center bombings by shameless and
holy muslims, eh, burkha ?
Subdy Dubuy Do, on this I agree with you . But these were fanatic
Mullahs not civilized Indians like you, then why this barbaric act by
Hindus on Hindus ????
twisting it cunningly,will hardly take you anywhere...muslims all over
the world have the same common agenda of terrorism..all hindus dont go
beheading...a tantric in bhiar is not civlised and educated
enough,like the person who commanded the plane,or their backers
worldwide.
Mr.Koolfire, ther are billions of Muslim worldwide and not all of them
are doing this kinf of things, only a tiny percentage. And if you
divide these fantiacs by total number of Muslim worldwide and then do
the same for Hindu fanatics. Hindu fanatic %age will be way to high.
Do teh math
1. The difference is there are no clear-cut guidelines about tantric
practices and beheading innocent non believer in any of the Hindu
religious texts.
2. The difference is those people who resort to such nefarious acts
are NOT glorified in the Hindus pantheons. People dont celebrate on
the streets when such things happen.

Math does not picture. IF math picctures tell me why 25 % of te pop
required 30 % of land area to form Pak and Bang.
kgazi
2003-10-12 01:34:25 UTC
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No muslim text guidelines suicide-bombing, building-crashing or celebrating
either.

Those are (condemned) political reactions to unwelcome foreign policies.
Post by Ramanan
1. The difference is there are no clear-cut guidelines about tantric
practices and beheading innocent non believer in any of the Hindu
religious texts.
2. The difference is those people who resort to such nefarious acts
are NOT glorified in the Hindus pantheons. People dont celebrate on
the streets when such things happen.
Math does not picture. IF math picctures tell me why 25 % of te pop
required 30 % of land area to form Pak and Bang.
Subir
2003-10-09 01:08:44 UTC
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Subdee Dubudee Dooo, on this I must agree with you . But these were fanatic
Mullahs not civilized Indians like you, then why this barbaric act by
Hindus on Hindus ????
Apologies, ustad sayaad, but those were *not* fanatic mussulmanics but
sincere and deeply religious people who were acting under a signed
fatwa that has yet to be repudiated or withdrawn. But, see, ustad, up
in above subject line, we are but stupid indoos, who, for some
religious reason, seem to the subject of intense mullah research on
non-WTC barbarisms.
Kunal Singh
2003-10-08 03:18:08 UTC
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I've got a feeling from reading quite a few articles that most such 'tantric
sacrifices' are cover-ups for murder done at the last minute.
Post by inkisaar
Bihar tantriks offer youth's head to deity for magical powers
Indo-Asian News Service
Patna, October 7
Tantriks beheaded a youth and offered his head to a local deity to
gain supernatural powers at a village in Bihar, reports said on
Tuesday.
The tantriks cut off the head of 25-year-old Binay Kumar of Barbigha
village in Sheikhpura district on Monday night and offered it to
Dakbaba, the local deity.
The incident comes close on the heels of Union Minister of State for
Human Resources Sanjay Paswan encouraging witchcraft practitioners by
calling them traditional healers in Bihar.
The youth, who ran a sweets shop in the village, was abducted
recently. His headless body was later found in a field, and his head
discovered later in a temple.
The incident has created panic and fear among villagers. But some
believe the head being found in the temple was a smokescreen and the
youth had actually been murdered.
His head was offered to the village god to mislead people about the
motive behind the murder, some villagers said.
pund kamath
2003-10-08 13:13:56 UTC
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Post by Kunal Singh
I've got a feeling from reading quite a few articles that most such 'tantric
sacrifices' are cover-ups for murder done at the last minute....
You could be right. But then backwardness and barbaric behaviour is
nothing new in India.
Vijay S. Bajwa
2003-10-09 14:26:37 UTC
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Post by Kunal Singh
I've got a feeling from reading quite a few articles that most such 'tantric
sacrifices' are cover-ups for murder done at the last minute....
You could be right. But then backwardness and barbaric behaviour is
nothing new in India.
Especially in Bihar. It has nothing to do with Hindusim, although they might
try to weave in their vodoo with Hindu gods and godesses. Vodoo is a release
from poverty, hopelessness and darkness of illiteracy. Verily, Bihar is a
living hell on earth. Lets not try to drag Islam into all of this.
kgazi
2003-10-11 01:49:37 UTC
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Hmmm, Habshi - is Hinduism a barbaric religion now , , ,
or, should we say:
"Quick, convert to Islam immediately ?"

Hence the saying : people in glass houses should not throw stones . . .
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Especially in Bihar. It has nothing to do with Hindusim, although they might
..................
Romanise
2003-10-11 15:23:02 UTC
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Hmmm, Habshi - is Hinduism a barbaric religion now , , ,
"Quick, convert to Islam immediately ?"
Hence the saying : people in glass houses should not throw stones . . .
They should if people getting killed are innocent bystander or if
unwillings are targeted because they belong to shia sect.

In Hinduism, if not a child, those getting killed in the name of
religion are 100% willing participants.
kgazi
2003-10-11 16:51:28 UTC
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Thats barbaric isnt it? SUICIDE BEHEADERS ??!!
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In Hinduism, if not a child, those getting killed in the name of
religion are 100% willing participants.
Romanise
2003-10-12 05:01:16 UTC
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In Hinduism, if not a child, those getting killed in the name of
religion are 100% willing participants.
Thats barbaric isnt it? SUICIDE BEHEADERS ??!!
All religions are barbaric to the extent they do not honour life. It
is getting more and more clear to the world which ones dishonour life
more. Like catholic priests are coming under microscope.
kgazi
2003-10-13 05:34:14 UTC
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No religion is barbaric.
Only criminals who act in the name of religion give religion the bad name.
Post by Romanise
All religions are barbaric to the extent they do not honour life. It
is getting more and more clear to the world which ones dishonour life
more. Like catholic priests are coming under microscope.
Romanise
2003-10-13 11:12:11 UTC
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No religion is barbaric.
Only criminals who act in the name of religion give religion the bad name.
Including the criminal who collected morons to rule over them for 1400 years.
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Post by Romanise
All religions are barbaric to the extent they do not honour life. It
is getting more and more clear to the world which ones dishonour life
more. Like catholic priests are coming under microscope.
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Kunal Singh
2003-10-11 02:37:40 UTC
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I've got a feeling from reading quite a few articles that most such 'tantric
sacrifices' are cover-ups for murder done at the last minute....
You could be right. But then backwardness and barbaric behaviour is
nothing new in India.
Especially in Bihar. It has nothing to do with Hindusim, although they might
try to weave in their vodoo with Hindu gods and godesses. Vodoo is a release
from poverty, hopelessness and darkness of illiteracy. Verily, Bihar is a
living hell on earth. Lets not try to drag Islam into all of this.
Actually, most of the tantric killings in Bihar, though this one does not
have the names of people involved, involve northwestern Hindus like Bajwa!
Particularly in Delhi and the surrounding region. Half the tantrics going
around in Bihar are actually Punjabi!
Kunal Singh
2003-10-11 02:58:02 UTC
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Bajwa stop playing your baja with your ass. Care to explain why most names
of people killing in the name of tantra are Punjabi ?


Priest beheads dalit to appease goddess


Bhopal March 26. A priest's quest for hidden treasure landed him in police
net as he was arrested for allegedly beheading a dalit `tantric' in a temple
of goddess Durga, at Parasari village in Sagar district of Madhya Pradesh,
police said today.

Chandrabhan Singh Lodhi, a priest, hailing from Uttar Pradesh had allegedly
beheaded 55-year-old Alam Ahirwar on March 22 to appease the goddess on the
belief that the human sacrifice would lead him to some hidden treasure.
Ahirwar, also in search of hidden wealth, was a regular visitor to the
temple and the priest reportedly used to perform sorcery on him, police
said.

Police said that during interrogation, Lodhi had said that on Saturday last
both he and Ahirwar had started pooja to charm goddess Durga at the temple
but when the latter bowed before the deity, the priest beheaded him with an
axe. Later the priest threw the body on the railway tracks, police said.

A case has been registered against the culprit under section 302 of IPC. --
PTI
Post by Vijay S. Bajwa
Post by pund kamath
Post by Kunal Singh
I've got a feeling from reading quite a few articles that most such 'tantric
sacrifices' are cover-ups for murder done at the last minute....
You could be right. But then backwardness and barbaric behaviour is
nothing new in India.
Especially in Bihar. It has nothing to do with Hindusim, although they might
try to weave in their vodoo with Hindu gods and godesses. Vodoo is a release
from poverty, hopelessness and darkness of illiteracy. Verily, Bihar is a
living hell on earth. Lets not try to drag Islam into all of this.
M. Ranjit Mathews
2003-10-11 23:43:48 UTC
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Post by Kunal Singh
Bajwa stop playing your baja with your ass. Care to explain why most names
of people killing in the name of tantra are Punjabi ?
Does the name Chandrabhan Singh Lodhi definitively tell you he's a
Punjabi or are there UPwalas too with Singh as a middle name? (the
article seems to say he's a UPwala). Is there any way that you can tell
whether the priest is a Brahmin?

I've never seen a temple with only a priest and one visitor; temples are
usually crowded. What kind of temple is this (do you think) that the
priest has sufficient privacy to kill a devotee and carry his body away
without being observed by anyone?
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Priest beheads dalit to appease goddess
Bhopal March 26. A priest's quest for hidden treasure landed him in police
net as he was arrested for allegedly beheading a dalit `tantric' in a temple
of goddess Durga, at Parasari village in Sagar district of Madhya Pradesh,
police said today.
Chandrabhan Singh Lodhi, a priest, hailing from Uttar Pradesh had allegedly
beheaded 55-year-old Alam Ahirwar on March 22 to appease the goddess on the
belief that the human sacrifice would lead him to some hidden treasure.
Ahirwar, also in search of hidden wealth, was a regular visitor to the
temple and the priest reportedly used to perform sorcery on him, police
said.
Police said that during interrogation, Lodhi had said that on Saturday last
both he and Ahirwar had started pooja to charm goddess Durga at the temple
but when the latter bowed before the deity, the priest beheaded him with an
axe. Later the priest threw the body on the railway tracks, police said.
A case has been registered against the culprit under section 302 of IPC. --
PTI
Romanise
2003-10-13 15:47:52 UTC
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Post by Kunal Singh
Bajwa stop playing your baja with your ass. Care to explain why most names
of people killing in the name of tantra are Punjabi ?
Does the name Chandrabhan Singh Lodhi definitively tell you he's a
Punjabi or are there UPwalas too with Singh as a middle name? (the
article seems to say he's a UPwala). Is there any way that you can tell
whether the priest is a Brahmin?
Kunal Singh Vedic bases his claim perhaps on surname 'Lodhi', but
priest is certainly not a brahmin, nobrahmin wil have singh in his
name.
Post by M. Ranjit Mathews
I've never seen a temple with only a priest and one visitor; temples are
usually crowded.
Like Babri there are many temples without the Gods being attended
except by some suicidal beings in the North. Some years back a Patel
youth from Saurashtra set up a crude guillotine in one such temple and
gave a 'kamalpujaa' to shivaji leaving behind a young wife and a
child. Shivji didnot intervine and did not favour the fellow with
boons like he did to Demon Ravana. See, shivaji too has soft corner
for evil people.
Post by M. Ranjit Mathews
What kind of temple is this (do you think) that the
priest has sufficient privacy to kill a devotee and carry his body away
without being observed by anyone?
Kunal Singh
2003-10-17 03:40:58 UTC
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Terms such as Lodhi describe the original place from where the person
migrated. This is why Awadhiya Kurmis are termed Awadhiyas. In some places
people use the caste as the last name, very common in Yadav clans across
India. In other places the place of origin becomes either identified with
caste or last name. Most Gurjaras for example, still have the last name
Gurjara in MP where such a convention of using the caste as the surname is
common. From that one can tell that they originated in Gujranwala Pakistan.
Further, after determination of last names, one can guess at the caste even
by first name. For example, Chandrabhan is a name more popular in the
western region, particularly amongst Rajputs.

In Bihar for example, if you see very modern first names like Pintu, Sonny,
Bintu coupled with Singh, they are likely Bhumihar names. Kurmi and Yadav
names are more 'old-fashioned' particularly rural names such as Ram Jatan
Singh, Ramapravesa, Dwarika, Mithila Sharan, Sarjug, with younger housenames
like laddoo, bhalu, kalu etc. It would be a rare occurrence for a Kurmi or
Yadav woman to be named 'Lovely Singh' etc., as the people in those
societies wouldn't stop laughing at it! Bhumihars and Rajputs on the other
hand have more 'akru' names like Bharmeshwar, Parameshwar, Vijendra,
Jitendra, Vikram, Virendra etc.
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Post by M. Ranjit Mathews
Post by Kunal Singh
Bajwa stop playing your baja with your ass. Care to explain why most names
of people killing in the name of tantra are Punjabi ?
Does the name Chandrabhan Singh Lodhi definitively tell you he's a
Punjabi or are there UPwalas too with Singh as a middle name? (the
article seems to say he's a UPwala). Is there any way that you can tell
whether the priest is a Brahmin?
Kunal Singh Vedic bases his claim perhaps on surname 'Lodhi', but
priest is certainly not a brahmin, nobrahmin wil have singh in his
name.
Post by M. Ranjit Mathews
I've never seen a temple with only a priest and one visitor; temples are
usually crowded.
Like Babri there are many temples without the Gods being attended
except by some suicidal beings in the North. Some years back a Patel
youth from Saurashtra set up a crude guillotine in one such temple and
gave a 'kamalpujaa' to shivaji leaving behind a young wife and a
child. Shivji didnot intervine and did not favour the fellow with
boons like he did to Demon Ravana. See, shivaji too has soft corner
for evil people.
Post by M. Ranjit Mathews
What kind of temple is this (do you think) that the
priest has sufficient privacy to kill a devotee and carry his body away
without being observed by anyone?
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